All fulfilled and no "on-going fulfillment"

[Donald]

After The Destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD, no more:

1. Visions (2 Cor. 12:1)

2. Miracles (1 Cor. 12:10-11; 13:8-10)

3. Healings (1 Cor. 12:28-31)

4. Speaking in tongues (Mark 16:17; Acts 2:16-22; 1 Cor. 12:8-10, 30)

5. Power of the holy spirit

6. Inspired by God to write down

7. Angels manifestation

8. Circumcision (Rom. 4:9-13)

9. Sacrifices (Heb. 10:1-18)

10. Temple building

11. Satan, devil, old serpent

12. Beast

13. False Prophet

14. Harlot (apostate Israel)

15. Hades

16. Judgment

17. Resurrection

18. The coming (parousia) of Christ

19. Fire of Gehenna (“Hell”)

20. The “Church” (apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors, and teachers - Eph. 4:11-14)

21. Water baptism (Matt. 3:15; 28:18-20; 1 Cor. 1:14-17)

22. Passover/the Lord’s Supper (Matt. 26:26-29; Mark 14:22-25; Luke 22:15-20, 30; 1 Cor. 11:23-26)

23. Evangelism (Matt. 24:14, 34; 28:18-20; Mark 13:10, 31; 16:15-18; Luke 24:44-48)

24. The Jewish Festivals

All Israel (12 tribes) were saved and reunited through their Messiah/Kinsmen/Savior/Mediator of the New Covenant. The harvest already gathered and there is no on-going fulfillment.

[Donald]

Hello Larry and Patrick,

To answer your questions, if my view is correct (there’s a small chance I may be wrong), we will died like everyone else which it called annihilationism. Only chosen people (Hebrews) were saved and went into heaven during the parousia of Christ in the first century. I understand a lot of people are hoping to live forever after they died but it seems to me it is not God’s will for non-covenanted people.

I am just being honest what I’ve learned and seen from the Bible. I grew up in Christian (Baptist/Reformed) family and they are wonderful to me. I went to John MacArhtur’s Master’s College and taught Deaf Sunday School at his church for a few years. I already know “in and out” Church traditions (“Trinity”, “Dispensationalism/various futurist views”, “Hell”, “Preaching the Gospel” etc.). I’ve studied other views like JW, Mormon, Christian Identity, Christadelphian, SDA, Calvinism, Arminiansm, etc. and they have some truths and errors. That’s why God hasn’t manifested Himself for about 2,000 years and look at the Church history have gone wrong. Where is the “Holy Spirit” when you need ‘em?

I’m just enjoying to read the Bible and to figure it out which is the truth or not. I love to debate with the Christians in different views, especially in the forums. So, if my view is correct, I rather to know the truth, whether I like it or not than being a fool. However, in back of my mind I am hoping that there is life after death but I can’t guarantee it. This doesn’t mean that I can go on “sinning” and do something evil. I just happen to live in Judeo-Christian society in USA all of my life.

Does that answer your questions?

[Patrick]

Yes...I'd like to see the answers to Larry's questions as well.

What happens after death for those of us today?
Should we even bother reading the bible, praying, going to church, helping others, paying tithes, etc...

[Larry Siegle]

So, what are people living beyond the first-century, beyond the "time of the end" beyond the fulfillment of the Old Covenant, left with today? If all of the Bible is fulfilled completely, with no "ongoing" reality, what is left for believers today, and why should a person even believe? Is there life beyond physical death? Does one exist eternally with God in some sense of the word?