Beyond Creation Science

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This is a group discussion about the book, "Beyond Creation Science" by Tim Martin and Jeff Vaughn and also their view on "Covenant Creation". Jeff Vaughn "JL" is a member of this site
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  • Donald

    Hello Jeff,

    I guess this is a good place where we can discuss about your book and your view on “Covenant Creation” and see where we have common or differ. As you’ve seen in other thread on this forum, “Genesis Creation – Alternative”:

    http://fulfilledtheology.ning.com/forum/topics/genesis-creation-alt...

    What I would like to try focus on Gen. 1-3 first and do one subject at a time. I hope we can just “go with the flow” and keep it simple so that we can try to understand each other where we are coming from.

    You seem agreed with me about the Genesis creation account in Gen. 1, correct? We know that the Genesis Creation was not about the creation of the universe, planet Earth and the mankind. Also it is not about “Old Earth Creation” (OEC) vs. “Young Earth Creation” (YEC) even though we agree on OEC view.

    Let’s discuss about Gen. 1:1. What is your view on this verse? When it was began? What is “heavens and earth” means?

    Feb 24, 2010

  • JL Vaughn

    Donald,

    I'd much rather make sure we have the Genesis Flood settled. That's the part that carries over from the previous editions, is well developed, and has been ignored.

    Either that, or maybe start where the book starts, discussing our fairly novel development of preterism.

    These are easier topics and will help us quickly find the common ground needed to properly explore Gen. 1.

    Blessings

    Feb 24, 2010

  • Donald

    Jeff,

    We agreed that the flood was local and that’s settled but what do you mean about someone “ignored”? Do you mean me or someone else? I do not have your latest edition but what does it covered? How many editions so far?

    We hold in full preterist view but there are various views within the camp, i.e. Immortal Body Now (IBN) vs Immortal Body at Death (IBD), “Rapture” (spiritual vs literal), “Heaven and Earth” in Rev.21-22 speaking of Genesis Creation vs Mosaic Creation, Israel exclusive vs all mankind, etc. That’s why I would like us to start discussion on Gen. 1-3 and see from there. This does not have to be about your book but it is relate to your view on Covenant Creation which you might publish another book in near future, aren’t you? :-)

    Feb 24, 2010