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Thanks for the opportunity to coment!

   As to the number in the Garden during Adam's creation, we cannot question other than a plurality present.

Genesis 1:26 clearly states a plurality in the "us, our, and them' in scriptural account. By the way, as author, in The

Great Deception, I laid out the dimensions of Heaven and Earth, to within a foot in all directions. Additionally, Eden encompassed these same boundaries. To the East in Eden, could be anywhere east of central Heaven and Earth.

Guess where that would place the Garden? No, not along the Euphrates! Donald possesses the map.

   Hope this might stir some interest and discussion.

Ben Winter






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Comment by Taffy on May 30, 2012 at 10:29am

The "woman" fell into the "temptation" first, not the man (Gen 3:1, 6, 1 Tim 2:14).  That marked "women" out as the easier target.  After that "holy women" (e.g. Sarah; 1 Pet 3:5-7) sought not to "tempt" or be "tempted" and it "became" them to wear their "hair" long as a "symbol" of their godly "authority" (1 Cor 11:6-8, 10).


Their display showed both "men" and "angels" they were NOT interested in seeking a man's attention by accentuating their upper body, rather they "covered" it.  They were content to "love" and "submit" to their "own husbands" even as they in turn "loved" them (Eph 5:25).  That was the woman's "glory" (1 Cor 11:13-15), and it had to do with "modesty", "propriety" and "moderation" (1 Tim 2:9), attributes of the "spirit".


In his innocence Adam was the visible "image" of the "invisible God" (Gen 1:26, Ps 8:5).  God's "will" made "flesh".  All who "saw" and experienced his "love" would "see" and experience God (as, Jn 14:19).  It had NOTHING to do with his teeth, legs and nose-hair (his "male physical form"), but EVERYTHING to do with "righteousness".  [ See, "The Image of God". ]


The ONLY reason "angels" appeared in the "form" of "men" was because that's the only thing that made sense if God wanted His PEOPLE to take their words seriously.  Appearing as hippos and gazelles may have seemed a little strange..lol.

Take care, Taffy.
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Comment by RiversOfEden on May 30, 2012 at 9:04am

Hi Ben,


The "us" and "our" and "we" in Genesis 1:26 could also be referring to the plurality of the "host of heaven" (i.e. angels) that were God's servants (Hebrews 1:14) and co-rulers (1 Kings 22:19; Hebrews 2:5).


It's interesting to note that, when Paul gave his inspired commentary on the "image and glory of God", he related it to "the angels" (1 Corinthians 11:10) and the physical attributes that distinguished the male and female appearance (1 Corinthians 11:6-8; 1 Corinthians 11:13-15).


This suggests to me that the "image and glory of God" (Genesis 1:26) was related to the fact that the "angels" who appeared as "God" throughout scripture (e.g. Genesis 18-19) had the same physical "male" form as "Adam."    Since God Himself was always "invisible" (John 1:18; 1 Timothy 6:16), He manifested Himself as angelic messengers.  The "male" human physical form is a copy of the "image and glory" in which the angels appeared on God's behalf.


Thus, it seems that the Hebrews understood that Adam was "created in the image and glory of God" in the sense that his physical appearance resembled the male physical form in which the angelic host appeared.


Rivers :)


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