This is a response about Rivers view on the Jews and 10 Tribes!
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Donald
Tim, here's my Facebook groups:
Preterist and Fulfilled Theology: http://www.facebook.com/#!/groups/381541645214446/
The Chosen People: http://www.facebook.com/#!/groups/389953497721186/
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timothy Wallace
Thanks for the information on Face book...I would appreciate it if you can answer those questions! At this point this is where i lose everyone..I posted examples of the word Jew and the history of it...(The word Jew is very (Disngenous- lacking in candor; also : giving a false appearance of simple frankness : calculating) I would appreciate if you can answer my question on the Scynthians and Barbarians.(How can these Nations be in Christ?) These Nations were in the area of the Ten Tribes! How about Christ spending his time in Galliee which is a Celtic colony or close to it? Gaulatians is a Celtic Colony filled with Celtics and Greeks. Why did Paul preach the Gospel to these Nations? How can the Celts.Greeks,Scynthians,Barbarians be the Chosen People...This is History and the Bible Donald! There has not been one PRETERIST WHO WANTS TO EVEN DISCUSS THIS (WHY?) This belief is very (Consistent-marked by harmony, regularity, or steady continuity : free from variation or contradiction) with the bible. I would love to hear from anyone on this great bible history and these chosen people that God regathered...I thought this site might be a great place to talk about the CELTS,SCYTHIANS,BARBARIANS..Why dont we ever hear of the make up of these tribes? Whe did the Apostles go to these Tribes? Why did Jesus go live amongest the Celts in Galliee? We only hear of Jews and not the Ethnos of the other clans,tribes,nations! Is there anyone who wants to talk about these people that are in the bible?
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Donald
Tim,
I suggest you to join in Facebook groups where you will have more people involved because this forum is kinda of "dead" (quiet) lately. Trust me. ;-)
I agree with most of what Rivers says, but i listen to one of the shows and what he was saying about the Jews.The Jews are not a religion! That is n possible based on the word Judahite.Judahite does not equal religion. Jesus was a Judahite because he was from the tribe of Judah..Jesus and the Apostles followed the Law of Moses Those Tribes that came back to the land brought a new religion from Babylon.They where not following the Law of Moses!!...Do your own study on it and you will be surprised. I am here to contribute on this issue but the subject of Jews and Israel still needs to be defined…Lets start with the word Jew, then we will deal with Israel. (This is not my opinion this is history,the bible and the study of Etymology! The term Jew originates in the Biblical Hebrew word Yehudi meaning “from the Tribe of Judah “, “from the Kingdom of Judah , or “Jew “. This was translated into the Greek Ioudaios and Latin Iudaeus, from which the Old French giu was derived after dropping the letter “d”, and later became the English word Jew. Originally, the term Yehudi referred specifically to members of the tribe of Judah, as distinguished from the other tribes of Israel. However, after the death of King Solomon, the nation of Israel was split into two kingdoms. The kingdom of Judah and the kingdom of Israel…. The Term Jew is not a religion it was to represent the men of Judah… Lets deal with Israel and what Rivers said about race and circumcision….Psalm 147- Israel and Jacob are the only one’s to receive God’s law and decrees 12 Racial seed blood line tribes(Fact)….This is for Israel only(Fact) Israels 10 Northern Tribes were not lost at (ALL,FACT) ( There is no separating the law,land,covenant,race promises,Hades,Geneology Promises) Israels Ten Northern tribes were not lost!! God was looking for Jacobs racial seed. Matthew 28 was to regather the uncircumised and circumsied Israelite who were related to Abraham and Jacob..(They where their race,kin,brothers.( These 10 tribes where Jacobs blood and prosterity who where not Circumsied) Don’t you find it interesting that Israel was on the other side of the Eurphartes? There where Millions who became Celts,Sycnthians,Barbarinans and those who kept there idenity!!! These are the other uncircumcisied Israelites that James and Peter and the whole bible were talking about. Those in Asia Minor, Russia, Ukraine,Britian,Gaulatians,Turkey,Media,Cappadocia not just Rome,Greece,Spain etc…..This is why those uncircumcised 10 Northern Tribes could care less about circumcision..Those Judahites=JEWS who went back to build the wall and Temple were all about the land and Temple but all those people in the land where not Judahites. They where Benjaminites,Levitites Cannanites Edomites When the bible says look at all these Jews were they from Judea? Where they from the Tribe of Judah? Where the from Jerusalem? Where these Jews following the law of Moses or did these Jews follow the traditions from the babylonian religious system?...King Herod was a Edomite.(Was he a Jew) The land was full of non- Israelites who were considered Jews because they lived in Judea not because they followed the law of Moses .. Final thoughts before we start working on a new Theology...So a Jew can be a person who is born a Jew! A Jew can be someone who follows the law which is really the Babylonian Talmud. A Jew can be a Jew because he lives in Judea....