All fulfilled and no "on-going fulfillment"

by Donald

Feb 17, 2010

After The Destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD, no more:

1. Visions (2 Cor. 12:1)

2. Miracles (1 Cor. 12:10-11; 13:8-10)

3. Healings (1 Cor. 12:28-31)

4. Speaking in tongues (Mark 16:17; Acts 2:16-22; 1 Cor. 12:8-10, 30)

5. Power of the holy spirit

6. Inspired by God to write down

7. Angels manifestation

8. Circumcision (Rom. 4:9-13)

9. Sacrifices (Heb. 10:1-18)

10. Temple building

11. Satan, devil, old serpent

12. Beast

13. False Prophet

14. Harlot (apostate Israel)

15. Hades

16. Judgment

17. Resurrection

18. The coming (parousia) of Christ

19. Fire of Gehenna (“Hell”)

20. The “Church” (apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors, and teachers - Eph. 4:11-14)

21. Water baptism (Matt. 3:15; 28:18-20; 1 Cor. 1:14-17)

22. Passover/the Lord’s Supper (Matt. 26:26-29; Mark 14:22-25; Luke 22:15-20, 30; 1 Cor. 11:23-26)

23. Evangelism (Matt. 24:14, 34; 28:18-20; Mark 13:10, 31; 16:15-18; Luke 24:44-48)

24. The Jewish Festivals

All Israel (12 tribes) were saved and reunited through their Messiah/Kinsmen/Savior/Mediator of the New Covenant. The harvest already gathered and there is no on-going fulfillment.

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  • Bennie Winter

    Comment by Donaldon March 31, 2012 at 11:12am           

    Hi Ben,


    Sorry, Don:

    I overlooked your enquiry copied and pasted below.

    Even though I have read Josephus two or three times, I do not believe people images were seen over Jerusalem during the VENGEANCE wrecked there in Messiah's final Parousia year. Josephus was present though a prisoner of Titus, and he wrote glowing accounts of the great activity conducted. However, the Hebrew writers were habitually addicted to hyperbole; I have no reason to think otherwise of Josephus; nonetheless, let's assign my impression to speculation and try to intercept the biblical scenario involving prophetic exaggeration: Messiah coming on the clouds of heaven. This in itself might give some of us pause; for, indeed, the great army of soldiers, logistical array, suppliers, slaves, and animals would indeed raise clouds of indication, of Messiah coming on the clouds of heaven. Evidence is so scarce as to make it anyone's best guess. I choose to believe it as clouds of smoke, dust, and vapor: the same kind that Jesus disappeared into as he left the approach to Bethany and evidently disappeared in the dust and smoke and took his place in heaven, next to the Father (according to a combination of Mark and Luke closing accounts). Now, you must know where the Father resided! If Messiah ruled from the Inter Sanctum alongside the Father, then, his place in heaven would have to be in the inner-Temple! So, I think the appearance in heaven was evidential of a great ground army doing its Parousia work, and at the same time evidencing angels or evidence of the constant message extoling His coming on the clouds of Heaven. There was a lot of smoke, dust, and vapor surrounding the battle and Temple activity.

    Best Regards,

    Ben

    Do you think there were "the appearing of Jesus Christ with his holy angels" during 66-70 AD in the sky/air as we read some historical records? Please check this thread: http://fulfilledtheology.ning.com/forum/topics

    /historical-records-w....

    May 24, 2012

  • RiversOfEden

     

    Hi Ben,

     

    Thanks for the reply.

     

    I think it was the "Jews" who were the "tribal narcissists" during the apostolic era (and not the rest of the Israelites who were considered "gentiles").

     

    For example, we know that the Samarians were sons of Jacob (John 4:6, John 4:20) and were circumcised (since the apostles did not preach to any uncircumcised people before Cornelius, Acts 8:14-15; Acts 11:1-3) and yet the Jews considered them to be "foreigners" (Luke 17:11; Luke 17:18) and "had no dealings with them" (John 4:9).

     

    We also know that Cornelius was "of another tribe" and yet it was "unlawful" for a "Jewish" Israelite to have any fellowship with him (Acts 10:28) because of the issue of "circumcision" (Acts 15:1).

     

    This is why I'm not sure that references to "Babylonians, Persians, Medes, and Romans" necessitates that Daniel's visions had the heathens in mind.   By the time Daniel was given his visions, the Kingdom had already been divided and only some of the Israelites (Southern Kingdom, Judah, Benjamin, Levites) were considered "Israel".  All the other Israelites in captivity would have been known as "foreigners".

     

    In Paul's letters, he uses the word "saints" to refer to his uncircumcised "gentiles" converts who were also "descendants" along with the circumcised Jews (Romans 4:16-18) and they all had "Abraham as (their) forefather according to the flesh" (Romans 4:1).   Paul defined "the whole world" of his day as both Jewish and gentiles Israelites who were "accountable to the Law" (Romans 3:19-20).

     

    Rivers :)

    riversofeden4@gmail.com

    May 25, 2012

  • Prabhu Das

    Brother, will you please... also list WHAT WE HAVE OR POSSES NOW?

    Oct 20, 2012